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#93519 - 03/04/12 02:21 PM xt250 or xt225
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ok its now time for a vote which is overall the best bike 225 or 250 and what are the best bits
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#93521 - 03/04/12 02:48 PM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: kris]
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I have never ridden a 250, so my opinion is somewhat uninformed...but as that doesn't seem to stop most people from spouting off (especially politicians) I will share my favorite bits:

Looks: 250--nothing at all against the 225, but the 250 designers got a homerun with that one.

Practical for offroad use: 225, based on significantly lower weight and 6 speed tranny, plus I suspect (given the longer history) that used parts are more available.
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#93522 - 03/04/12 02:58 PM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: kris]
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Hi Kris,

well I've owned a;

1982 XT250 (when new)
1998 XT225 Serow (pre owned)
2005 XT250 Serow (from new)
2010 XT225 Brazil (from new)

My thoughts would be as follows;

'82 XT250 - great as a road bike but too heavy for trail work.

'98 Serow - fab all-rounder great on trails, light weight inc the Japan alloy rims.

'05 Serow - loved that bike, a little heavier than the 225 but the extra torque covered the loss of the 6th gear. Best so far.

'10 Brazil - stonking bike and with the hard luggage mods just about perfect for me.

If I had the funds to buy another new machine I would be happy with either a 225 or a 250. The suspension on the 250 just feels that little bit more modern but the lighter weight of the 225 is noticeable for us little people.

Now that there are more after market parts available for the 250, such as Happy Trails hard luggage etc, then a 250 makes a lot of sense if you don't fancy fabricating stuff like Doc & myself did.

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#93533 - 03/04/12 06:28 PM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: kris]
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Hi Kris,

I have also ridden and owned both a 225 and a 250. I started with a 95 xt225 and bought it as a winter bike so I didn't care if it got muddy. I soon realised how much I liked the bike though and started to keep it clean!! I realised that I didn't miss the power of a bigger bike and that it was possible to tour on one of these little bikes.

I really liked the look of the 250 though and when Bradders from this site advertised his, it was too good to miss. I knew it would be reliable enough for long distance runs and had very low mileage.

Having run the 250 for almost a year now, I definitely prefer the 250. It feels much smoother and a much more modern feel to it than the 225. There is more plastic on the 250 than the 225, but parts are becoming easier to source now. No trouble getting any of the servicing items although you can't get the tubeless rear tyres in the right size. I have managed to get my bike kitted out completely for touring and as a road bike the 250 definitely wins the competition. I was changing down a lot more often on the 225 when you came to inclines whereas the 250 seems to take it in her stride and rides more like a bigger bike.

The 250 is also slightly taller than the 225 as well as the slight increase in weight, but being such a small lightweight bike anyway this causes no problems even when loaded up.

For serious off-roading, I understand that the 225 is meant to have a stronger frame and is therefore more suitable, but as I don't take mine off road I can't tell the difference.

1 thing I do prefer on the 225 and that is the headlight. The one on mine is shocking when on dipped beam and a car is coming towards you. The one on the 225 was much better.

The only reason I would ever consider selling my "Little Champ" is to buy a new one. Can't recommend the bike enough.
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#93542 - 03/04/12 11:13 PM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: bikerta]
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I have no opinion, not having a XT250.

However, for an XT225, I like an extra gear.
I like more aftermarket parts.
I like cable speedometers.

25cc more with everything else on a XT225, would be ideal!

Alexd
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#93543 - 03/04/12 11:36 PM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: alexd]
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There are only two things that the 225 has that I wish were available on the 250. A bigger plastic tank, and aftermarket fork springs. That said, RaceTech can modify the stock springs, and I think that an XT225 tank could be modified to fit the XT250 frame. If either of the tanks just listed for sale on here were "natural", I'd be buying one of them.

I like the disc brake on the 250 more than the drum on the 225, if for no reason other than ease of working on it. The updated instrumentation is a nice change, and the overall look of the 250 is cleaner/more modern, but definitely not a deal breaker to me.

The 250 is listed as heavier, and certainly it is, but the difference is not likely as great as the 40 pounds that is listed on paper. It's generally accepted that the 250 is more properly listed by Yamaha, and the 225 is incorrectly listed.
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#93544 - 03/05/12 12:02 AM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: sandalscout]
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As long as it was a japan built bike I'd be happy with either.
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#93557 - 03/05/12 04:58 AM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: Tigersaw]
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Hi Tigersaw,

my Brazilian would sulk hearing the comment about you only being happy with a built in Japan.

I've heard a rumour, and haven't been able to substantiate it, that the XT250's are built in China. Anyone else heard this?

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#93559 - 03/05/12 05:49 AM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: Reggie]
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just like Sandalscout said, the one thing i like about the xt225's is that you can get an aftermarket gas tank for them, to hold more fuel.

I checked out a xt225 when i was searching for a dual sport, along with a crf230l and a few other dual sports, then saw and test rode the xt250, i was sold.

things i like about the xt250

freeway legal, here in cali it has to be at least 250 cc's to be legal to ride on the freeway.

Electronic instrument panel, is awesome, its lit up, shows in MPH or KMH, has a clock, a easy resetable trip meter (use that when i fill up gas) and shows the speed in digital, nice and big and easy to see, very modern.

more power then the 225

only 5 gears instead of 6, i thought i would miss 6th gear, but that is not the case, for onroad riding, i usually start off in 2nd gear, can easily beat all traffic off the line, shift to 3rd gear at 30+mph, shift to 4th at 40+ mph, and then finally to 5th gear at 50+ mph, and from there im set till all the way to 80+ mph if i need to, so its a lot less shifting, and just more riding, which is great. and for offroad, its just as good, i usually never get out of 3rd gear while off roading anyways.

really like the looks, imo the bike looks great

to me it was more comfortable then the xt225


i like the rear disc brake, on my crf230f i had a drum rear brake, and did not like that at all, the disc brake is a huge improvement in braking imo.

the xt250 just fit me really well, its got pretty good power for a bike that is said to only have around 16hp.



that is just my thoughts on it, i know the 225 is a great bike too, with lots of aftermarket parts available for it, since its been around for many years, but yamaha choose to stop making the 225's and continue the xt line with the improved xt250.


Thanks to this forum, we got all the upgraded jets for the xt250's carb, we have a aftermarket FMF exhaust pipe for it, skid plate, rear racks, led lights, different fenders, wider foot pegs, etc,

Im really happy with mine.


But at the end of the day, its whatever suits the person better, one may like this, another may like that, as long as we all get out and ride and have a good time, really does not matter whose riding what, i say they are both greatly underestimated bikes, it really ticks me off everytime i hear someone say what a crappy bike the xt250 is, and what a glorified scooter it is, and its slow and not for off roading yada yada yada, i've seen the xt do everything the 400 cc's + do.
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#93610 - 03/06/12 01:49 AM Re: xt250 or xt225 [Re: Reggie]
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Reggie, I believe that being built in China was assumed as fact in earlier discussions on this forum. In fact, it seemed to be acknowledged as true of the late model 225's, as well.
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