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Oil Filter Question #148301 06/23/20 08:38 PM
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Well it's me again with more typical newbie questions. My original oil filter coming out has 4 small holes and 2 very large holes in the closed end. The 2 large holes apparently fit over the 2 pointed rubber tips inside the filter cage and the exterior is just smooth wire mesh. The new OEM, ( 5ho-13440-09 ), is pleated and has no bigger holes for those rubber tits to fit into, and it's also 1/8th inch longer. It does have the 4 small holes. So do I have the right one? Looks like the one in this link. Thanks

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Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148303 06/24/20 12:46 AM
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XT225 filter on the left. XT250 filter on the right. Physically interchangeable but not functionally interchangeable. Using a 250 filter in a 225 will starve the valve train of oil and ruin the head. Very dumb on Yamahas part.

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2006 XT225, UNI filter, ProTaper bars, MSR handguards, SS front brake line, Shinko 241's.
Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148310 06/24/20 07:40 PM
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Thanks for the pic. Do any of you lay your bikes on side and add oil to the filter cage before closing it up. I've never thought of doing anything like that and have just depended on the oil pump in other bikes. See about 7:10 of this vid to understand what I'm referring to. Thanks

Oil With Filter

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I've never done that when changing oil. The oil appears at the check bolt pretty quickly once it's started, note that he omits that very important step.

I'd also recommend you change the oil more often than every 3000 miles. Some here change it every 500. It only holds 1 qt and the filter can be cleaned and re-used so oil changes are cheap.


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Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148314 06/24/20 10:49 PM
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Yeah, that seems a bit over kill. Where is the oil check bolt. Thanks

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The oil check bolt may not be on all model years. My 2007 does not have one. At least not according to the manual.

So being always cautious I made darn certain the replacement filter looked almost identical to the OEM version and the one I pulled out of the bike. Followed the service manual procedures for oil change with filter replacement, and perhaps most importantly once completed let the motor idle for a while to check for leaks and ensure oil was circulating to the upper cylinder head. No unusual noises from the valves so did a quick loop down the road to confirm. All was good.

Note: need up buying 2 quarts of Yamalube, 100% synthetic. My motor doesn't burn a drop. So I use the extra oil for lubing the chain. By the time the remaining oil is gone it will be time for another oil change.

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Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148316 06/25/20 12:56 AM
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Mine is 2007 as well. Same blue and white trim as yours. I didn't see any reference in the oil change section of the manual to an oil check bolt. Thanks for posting up the link for the manual in my first thread, has helped answer several questions. Oh, did yours have the original oil filter in it. Still curious as to what the 2 big holes were for in it vs the newer OEM replacement and does yours have the 2 rubber tits inside the filter housing?

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Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148317 06/25/20 03:32 PM
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Sorry, gentlemen, but the 2007 XT225 DOES have a oil check bolt. No idea why the manual doesn't mention it. This is my second XT225, in my previous one the manual very definitely stated the oil flow should be checked after an oil change by removing or loosening this bolt. Just checked my my owner's manual for the 2007 and sure enough, it doesn't talk about it. But the bolt is there, just as it was in my previous bike, and I do check it when I change my oil. It is the bolt closest to the spark plug - just behind and slightly above it. Wish I had the ability to post a photo but I don't.

Very simple procedure. Once you've completed the oil change, either remove that bolt altogether or just back it out till it is only in there by one thread or so. Fire up the engine and if oil oozes out past the bolt then you are fine. If you've removed the bolt, oil will squirt out strongly so make sure to have a rag over the hole. Shut the engine off and tighten the oil check bolt back down.


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Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148318 06/25/20 03:57 PM
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The oil check bolt is circled. I would assume nearly all 225's have this. There's a copper washer under the head of the bolt. The process is exactly how Deserteagle describes. This confirms oil flow to the head and bleeds out any air bubbles.


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There's little value in pre-filling the oil filter because it doesn't have an anti-drain back valve. Some automotive oil filters have an anti-drain back valve for when the filter is installed in an orientation where the oil would normally drain out of it when the engine isn't running. The XT doesn't have this, so it's functionally dry every time you start it. The residual film that sticks to all the surfaces provides lubrication for the first couple seconds until the oil starts flowing.


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2006 XT225, UNI filter, ProTaper bars, MSR handguards, SS front brake line, Shinko 241's.
Re: Oil Filter Question [Re: Kenny4] #148321 06/25/20 06:16 PM
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I drilled my check bolt down the centre with a small drill, then in to meet that hole at 3mm from the head, 'cos I I had to take the bolt almost out, sometimes out, then I'd get oil everywhere. Now I undo it a couple of threads to burp it.


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