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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #133904 08/27/16 04:46 AM
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Or steer with the throttle. smile


'06 XT225, 2" hole in airbox, Z1 mod, 127.5 main jet, UNI air filter, Corbin seat, PIAA 500Hz, custom aluminum rear rack.
Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: peejman] #133905 08/27/16 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: peejman
Let me know if you figure out how to make the front feel connected in soupy gravel and we'll get rich. The only thing I know of is to stand up, let it wander a bit, stay on top of it, and steer with your feet.

That makes me feel better. In my younger days, I discovered in deep sand that getting up on the pegs and steering with the throttle worked, but at age 70, it's more difficult to get up that amount of courage. And my thigh muscles were killing me the day after my last ride, but riding in the dirt is more fun than going to a gym.


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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #133912 08/28/16 01:25 AM
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Riding in the sand can be quite a workout. I sure hope I'm still able to do it when I'm 70.


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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #133916 08/28/16 02:47 PM
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Sand just requires some practice and a bit of strength training. It's one of the few riding venues that offers a "soft" fall. The XT225 is under powered for deeper sand. It's also hell on the clutch. That said, the bike handles it reasonably well providing one selects terrain, speed and depth with some common sense.



Riding sugar sand in Warner Valley, AZ


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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #133923 08/29/16 05:46 AM
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Cool pic!


'06 XT225, 2" hole in airbox, Z1 mod, 127.5 main jet, UNI air filter, Corbin seat, PIAA 500Hz, custom aluminum rear rack.
Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #133926 08/29/16 03:56 PM
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I'm riding in a fairly level section without problems. There were also some mounds in here which the XT just could get up. You'd need about 400 CCs and a paddle tire to ride properly all that's in there.


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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #139677 12/11/17 03:21 PM
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Updates will follow:

Type of riding you do: 15 on /85 off
Tire size: rear 110/100x18, front 90/100x21
Tire make/model: rear Shinko R505 Hybrid Cheater, front Shinko F546 Soft-Intermediate
Price w/date: 11/24/17 $62.88, 12/1/17 $53.88
Where purchased: Rocky Mountain ATV MC, Rocky Mountain Atv Mc
How many miles you've used the tires: Zero, to be updated
Indicate front and/or rear: Both
Wet, dry, mud performance as applicable: Dry, Sand, Rock
Your comments, recommendations, observations and review.
Any other information you deem helpful: to be updated

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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #139773 12/20/17 11:45 PM
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In summary: Easier to ride on every surface I tried, quiet and lots of traction. Key words, Increased Stability. Very very happy with my choice. Also check this post, http://www.xt225.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=139771#Post139771

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Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: rocmoc] #140964 03/15/18 01:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: rocmoc
Updates will follow:

Type of riding you do: 15 on /85 off
Tire size: rear 110/100x18, front 90/100x21
Tire make/model: rear Shinko R505 Hybrid Cheater, front Shinko F546 Soft-Intermediate
Price w/date: 11/24/17 $62.88, 12/1/17 $53.88
Where purchased: Rocky Mountain ATV MC, Rocky Mountain Atv Mc
How many miles you've used the tires: Zero, to be updated
Indicate front and/or rear: Both
Wet, dry, mud performance as applicable: Dry, Sand, Rock
Your comments, recommendations, observations and review.
Any other information you deem helpful: to be updated


Update: Air pressure I am using is 10 lbs in both front & rear.

rocmoc n AZ


'06 XT225, '82 PE175, '16 Wildcat X 1000se, '70 CJ5
Re: XT225 Tire Fitment, Usage and Review Guide [Re: Muniac] #147972 05/15/20 01:01 PM
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Bike is 2007 XT225
  • Type of riding you do (on/off road mix) 40 on / 60 off, leaning towards extreme single track and trials, with town and gravel roads to connect
  • Tire size rear = 110/100-18 (the smallest and barely fits swing arm using extended chain), front = 80/100-21
  • Tire make/model Motoz Mountain Hybrid (not the gummy version) Motoz web page
  • Price w/date year 2020, $150 rear + $130 front Canadian
  • Where purchased (include link if available) Fort9 Canada
  • How many miles you've used the tires approximately 1000km
  • Indicate front and/or rear front + rear
  • Wet, dry, mud performance as applicable 4 seasons, wet+dry+cold+snow+paved+dirt+mud+sand+rocky beaches+bluffs+raw forest+logs


OK, I bloody love these Motoz Mountain Hybrid tires, so much I just panic-bought a spare set, damn the price, because they seem to be hard to get in Canada, mid May and covid supply problems. I use them with Tubliss front and rear, which the rear tire is designed for, and the front is happy with. At 1000km, I can barely detect any wear front or rear. Truth is a lot of my trails are pretty soft, so they have an easy life.

The rear is so big, it barely fits the XT225 swing arm. I had to use a longer chain. Sorry I didn't count the links, I just had a longer new spare chain, and cut it down to fit. But I'm out of adjustment room now that it isn't a virgin chain. I am about to cut the back out of the axle slots, and weld straps around the back of the slots for tensile strength, so all the load isn't purely pushing up on the upper sides of the slots with no support from the lower side. BUT THIS IS ALL WORTH IT FOR THE TRACTION.

With the rear tire at about 26.5" OD instead of stock 25.5" OD, 1'st gear lost it's true crawling nature. A 14 tooth front would fix that about perfectly back to normal. I put on a 13 tooth, because I wanted even lower crawling gear for crunching through raw forest, and to pretend I'm a trials rider. I can still do 110 km/h in 6'th gear on the road, although the tires aren't balanced, so it shakes a bit, OK for a test, but not something comfortable to ride highway for any distance. Up to 80 km/h I don't notice it at all, it's just fine.

Pressures in PSI: for hard offroad 7.5 front and rear, for easy offroad 12 front 10 rear, for street 15 front and rear. Could probably run 5 in the rear for extreme, but it gets mushy because I'm heavy at 220 pounds. The traction is ASTONISHING on all surfaces, except wet tree roots.

For street riding they are well behaved, although I haven't been fast and hard leaning. BUT THE REAR IS PRETTY LOUD. Not loud enough to need ear plugs, but not honestly quiet like the Shinko 700's on my XT250.

I have had a hard time getting the Tubliss to seal the tires as intended, because the Motoz tires have little ridges molded into the inside surface, right down to the beads. The rear tire eventually settled in, stopped leaking, when I upped my compressor pressure to 120 PSI for inflating the Tubliss tubes. The front still leaks a year later, it just won't seat, so I have to air it up from zero every time I ride each day. If that bothered me I would just have to shave or sand smooth the inside of the tire beads.

Why pay so much for a front tire? It's a credible hybrid between great bush knobby and trials tire, with more rubber down the middle than most knobbies, but not too much, and it's still quiet enough on paved roads that I don't mind it. It's a good traction match with the rear tire, according to Motoz, who seem to know what they're doing. And it's a pretty rare front, to be honest, for its design, which is like a deep aggressive knobby, but much more rubber on the road, half way to a trials. It works a charm, and there's nothing else quite like it.

Why pay so much for a rear tire? YouTube Review on Cross Training Enduro When I got my XT225, I rode the stock rubber very briefly, but I decided to drop the $550 CAD for Tubliss + Motoz Mountain Hybrid, to set up for next level traction. Specifically, I wanted the slow technical traction, which is perfectly suited to the XT225, not a wheel spinner, nor a whoops jumper MX where unsprung weight kills you. XT225 + Motoz Mountain Hybrid is a match made in heaven. My climbing limit is set by my ability to keep the front end on the ground, nothing else, even in loose sand it just tractors like it has tracks instead of tires.

Finally, the other version of the Mountain Hybrid is the gummy version for the rear tire. I might buy one some day for the extreme traction in wet conditions, but I am worried about the mileage, and frankly the regular compound is plenty soft and plenty astonishing.

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