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front wheel wobble #146746 12/30/19 03:24 AM
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So, as a beginner, I've found that every time I fix something on this project bike, I break 2 things.

I changed out the front tube and tire. Put everything back in the same order it came off.

Now I have a wobble in the front wheel despite the axle nut torqued to spec. If I hold the front wheel between my knees, I have a bit of play on the handle bars.

Could I have done something to the forks that requires a steering head adjustment?

In the manual, it states to:

Make sure the projections on the meter clutch are "meshed" with the flats in the wheel hub.

Does that mean they should be...on top of each other?

The picture in the manual I have is extremely low res, and the only guide I could find on here is using photobucket images that have been killed over time.


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146747 12/30/19 11:40 AM
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When placing the speedo meter on the wheel you need to rotate it to make sure it drops in and seats properly.


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146748 12/30/19 02:51 PM
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It really feels like it went in properly. Before mounting, the speedo will rotate on the wheel smoothly. It kind of slips down into place. Hard to see in the hub with all the grease, but Iím not sure how else it could be mounted


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146750 12/30/19 03:39 PM
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Yeah, I'm at a loss here. from brake side to clutch side:

Axle, washer, Fork, spacer & dust hood, Wheel, Speedo meter, Fork, washer, nut.

It almost feels like the washers should be inside the fork instead of outside, but I know thats not right.


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146752 12/30/19 07:01 PM
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The XT225 forks will have some play in them. That doesn't mean loose play but just the ability to move the handlebars slightly from side to side with the wheel restrained. You should feel resistance when trying to move the bars. You can pull a misaligned wheel straight this way too.

The head stock bearings should have no free play in them. Easiest way to check is put a finger on the head stock spanning to the fork. Lock the front wheel with the brake and push the bike backward and forward. If you feel any movement, there's a problem with those bearings. Most likely they need tightening.

The speedometer has a worm drive gear in the housing that drives the cable. The axle bolt passes through this. The housing has a groove which fits over a small boss on the fork. This prevents the housing from spinning as it drives the cable.

Inside there is a drive washer with three tabs on it. And a double D hole which drives the gear. These tabs index on the wheel and act like a mechanical fuse. If torque becomes too great (cable snarl) these tabs will bend relieving the drive.

My usual service on this is to disassemble the entire mechanism, clean in diesel fuel, check parts, seal, damage, etc. Fix anything needing attention reassemble, grease internals and install on axle. The small worn gear that drives the cable can't be removed. You'll need snap ring pliers too. Be careful to note the sequence of parts and spacers.

The washers on the axle go behind the head and under the hex nut. On the outside as you've indicated.

Next are the wheel bearings for which there are two. The OEM bearings aren't sealed and can wear out quickly. Replace them with sealed ones if they have slop. Sealed not shielded.

The forks have sleeve bearings inside. Two per fork if I recall them correctly. These wear and can create looseness.

As for a loose front wheel check:

1) Head stock bearings.
2) Wheel bearings.
3) Fork sleeve bearings.

And the most obvious are the spokes. Hope this helps.


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146753 12/30/19 09:39 PM
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Is there a trick to seating the speedometer? I feel like its on correctly, but can't think of any other reason for a wobble that started AFTER I took off the wheel. it goes on and spins, but there is a gap between the wheel and the speedo. Not sure if its supposed to be there or if seating it requires a hell of a lot more elbow grease and I haven't actually done so correctly. it dropped right off when I pulled the axle out so I don't know how seated it is supposed to be.

Do those 3 tabs line up with the 3 tabs in the wheel, or do they need to be on one side or the other?


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Originally Posted By: quaziau
but there is a gap between the wheel and the speedo.
Can you post a picture of this?


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146756 12/31/19 03:03 PM
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Yes, pictures are indicated at this point. Would be most helpful. You can use IMGUR for photo hosting to get a clean URL that ends in .jpg to embed photos.


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146757 12/31/19 03:54 PM
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Ok, so I have no idea how, but it is fixed. I guess I pinched the forks in just a bit. I figured the axle would straighten it out, but I guess not. I'm not the biggest fan of accidentally fixing a thing, but I'll take what I can get. Seems I did have the speedo mounted correctly.


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Re: front wheel wobble [Re: quaziau] #146760 12/31/19 08:03 PM
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If the speedo is working, it's likely installed correctly.


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